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You celebrate the essence of South Africa in your music with booming rhythms and folk-like storytelling. Was it your intention to grab hold of what was around you and let it inspire song?
It would be a lie to say it was a deliberate intention as
opposed to instinct. Right at the beginning of my career, I read an interview
where a musician I really respected said 'tell your own story. Tell your
truth.' I can't quite remember who it was who said that, but that's what I set
out to do. I can never be a better you than you, so why would I be someone
else? You can never be a better me than me, so why would I be someone else? And
I am South African, so I think there is an inevitability of that coming into my
music.
In recent years, Civil Twilight, The Parlotones, John Wizards, and BLK
JKS, all very different sounding bands have gained some attention here in
America but never achieved the massive rise they should have. Do you feel that
it is much harder to break it in this country coming from your country?
Hell yeah, it's way more difficult. Way, way, way more
difficult. The difficulty is part geography and part the global media
landscape. Here's the thing - if you're a reporter in New York, and you have
hundreds of really interesting NYC bands to cover every day, and then thousands
of American bands, why would you work extra hard to find out what's happening
elsewhere? So our approach is to work really hard to be in your face, in your
space! The downside is it is really expensive for us to tour the U.S. just to
break the market. Airfare is a killer. But we've been saving our pennies and
investing wisely in the band, our team, and our partners so that we can give it
a genuine shot.
One thing I will say, though, is it is definitely not the
quality of the music. We just have to work harder. We're prepared to work hard
and take risks.
South Africa is the rainbow nation, and it seems as if you play off that
idea. You paint a picture in the listeners head with various styles of music.
Who are some of your influences?
I grew up on Bob Dylan and Woody Guthrie. Woody especially
is an icon to me. Domestically, there was a point in my youth when the whole
country was crazy about Mango Groove. Hugh Masekela has also been an influence
over the years, and him and I have recently become friends. It's crazy. Also,
I'm not sure if this counts, but I consider Rodriguez one of our own. Ha. And
he's great.
You are based in Cape Town, how has that city influenced your work?
To be honest, most of my work ethic developed abroad while
working on a super yacht. Our work hours were irregular, but highly condensed.
It helped me learn to compartmentalise tasks. So I'd work intensely for like 8
hours of the day, and then work on music for 6 hours thereafter. When I got
back to Cape Town, I was able to add surfing to my routine, which I really
missed while working abroad.
I will say that in order for us to break around the world,
we have to work like New Yorkers work. Super intense when we're working, but
play really hard when we aren't, else we'll burn out. I'm still searching for
balance, though. It's elusive.
You are a big fan of collaborating with other artists. Who would you
love to work with?
I met a really talented British musician named Lucy Rose in
Prague recently. I'd love to work with her. I'm also a big fan of Andrew
Bird's, and I'm curious what he and I could do together. Shakey Graves is cool
too. I also grew up on mid 90s soulful rap, so working with someone like Mos
Def, Q-Tip or anyone who comes from that era or, rather, that etho, would be
cool to work.
Thanks to your infamous loop pedals, you are a one-man band. Do you ever
wish to expand this into a full on group that backs your or are the loops just
too much fun to play with?
I've found the perfect balance, actually. My friends and
long-term collaborators Jamie Faull, who's on sax and keys, and Motheo Moleko,
who raps, are always with me, so I always collaborate with them. For our larger
shows, we routinely scale up to six musicians. But what I've done is hybridised
the two - I always have my loops but we have a band playing around that. And
this way I can scale the experience during the show, first starting alone and
then growing all the way up to six people by the end of the gig.
Aside from making music, you are an activist and protest the
deforestation in your country. To those that simply do not understand, why is
this so important?
Deforestation and the rate the planet is degrading at are
kind of like a hairline crack on a tile. It seems innocuous at first, and then,
before you know it, you've fractured and broken the whole tile. People don't
realize that this is actually where things are for earth. I think very few
people think the threat to the planet, and our environment, and all life is
actually imminent, but it is. This is what we're trying to do. Make caring for
the environment cool, so that people lose these stupid associations with tree
hugging and the like, and instead realise that we're in serious crap and need
to do something about it.
Tell us about GreenPop, your social activism brand.
Activism is a bit of a misnomer for what we do at GreenPop.
GreenPop, the company I co-founded, plants trees in under-green communities all
around Southern Africa. We don't just advocate for trees, we actually get our
hands dirty and get stuck in, so we prefer the quite literal 'tree-planting
organisation' as a designation instead. To date, we've planted over 40,000
trees, and we're looking to breach 100,000 soon.
You grew up during Apartheid and then during the Mandela reign, how did
the shift in political and social power change you not just as a person but
also as a musician?
Thats a tough question...I suppose as a person I have been
saddened my entire life by the way governments and countries are mismanaged.
The misuse of political power and the abuse of human rights is something I am
very aware of because of how in your face it is growing up in a country like
SA. But my frustration is not with SA alone. If you look just a few hundred
years into our history, you'll see exactly where and why all of this came to
pass, and realise that so often Africa merely suffered as result of injustices
forced onto it. Some countries got rich off the backs of slave labour and left
the countries behind in ruin. I can't separate this frustration from my
personal life or my music, but I do hope to be able to send a positive message
of change through what I put out there.
When people
hear your music, what do you want them to take away from it?
That even in the most difficult, most heart wrenching, and
trying situations we actually land up in as people, joy or happiness can still
be experienced in a moment or through those trials. That's what my music is. I
try make music that brings people joy and happiness as a response to all the
other difficult shit we experience out there in the 'real world'.
What is
next for Jeremy Loops?
Releasing my debut album Trading Change in the U.S. in June
this year is a major goal for us. We'll be touring the States a bunch this year
in support of it, too. Similarly, we have major plans for Europe as well. We've
made an album we're really proud of, but my first love is performing on stage,
and traveling the world doing so is the trifecta. Basically, I'm feeling really
good about 2015.
